I Stole Ringo's Drums - and Bonzo's and...

Hello, George. We met briefly in Indianapolis at a vintage drum show. I was a guest of Bill Ludwig at the show. B3 and I have been friends since the 70s when I endorsed the company. Anyway, the case can be closed. I have Ringo's drums. Photo attached.

Sincerely, Robin Reuter-Steele Indianapolis

P.S. - I have Bonzo's set too! P.P.S. - I have Neil's set too. Last one. Anyway, I want to dump this one...it won't fit in the Prius.

Two Rare Leedy Kits

Hey Not-So-Modern-Drummer folks, here's some you don't often see. Check out the attached photos. A Leedy Dreadnaught kit from June 1944. The 1929-30 Leedy kit I got from the original owner. I call it the Frank Gomes Memorial Drum set.  He was a WWII hero who recently passed at 95.

Bob Meyer Cortlandt Manor, NY

 

John Root's 1930s Leedy Trap Kit

Hey George,

Here's the pictures of my thirties trap kit. It's a Leedy Spartan bass drum and snare. Front head can be illuminated from inside. Horsehair throne. I've assembled the kit over time to make it a true "contraption." Leedy Chinese toms and temple blocks, Ludwig cowbells and bass drum pedal. Leedy & Ludwig hi hat sock cymbal and ching cymbal. I play this kit and it sounds like a "Steamboat Willie" cartoon.

If you've got anymore questions let me know.  Feel free to reverse the images so that no one gets hurt in the view of the pictures. LOL!

John Root Nashville, TN

"Proud Left-Handed Drummer" www.JohnRootDrums.com

Rogers Canadian Catalog

Rogers Drums were made in three factories. The first one was in New Jersey, when the family owned the company. When Rogers was purchased by Cleveland based Henry Grossman (of Grossman Music) he moved operations to Covington, Ohio in the 1950s. In 1969, Rogers, as a division then, of CBS Musical Instruments consolidated production in Fullerton, California.

During the Covington years, finished product was shipped to Grossman Music headquarters in Cleveland for warehousing and sales. Once CBS owned Rogers, in April of 1966, the warehousing was done in nearby Dayton, Ohio.

Today's feature was created during the Covington time period when Rogers also used the Toronto firm of H&A Selmer for Canadian distribution. I've had this undated catalog for quite a few years and I would date it about 1962 since some of the pages are exactly the same as the US catalog.

The Canadian version has a few differences and pictures of sets and descriptions were minimized to save space.

The catalog is about one third the total size of the US counterpart, leaving out a number of products. What we do find are the various Rogers sets, snare drums, tom toms and basses, marching drums, Swiv-o-matic hardware, stands, cymbals and heads and percussion items. No prices are listed.

You can see the front cover - an illustration of a silhouette of a matched grip drummer. The inside front and back covers have pictures of international endorsees - Charles Botterill of England and Mark Bowden of Australia are in both the US and Canadian catalogs, but Canada's own Ron Rully and Ray Reilly are pictured with their sets. Buddy Rich and Louie Bellson are also on the back cover in gleaming black and white.

The only color shot shows us the 14 plastic wraps and two lacquers available in 1962. If I could go back in time, I would get every Mardi Gras drum I could get from the factory and warehouse. The only problem with Rogers in 1962 was that the company was in the final two years of using the beautiful but fragile drawn brass lugs. We needed another year for Rogers to introduce their nearly indestructible beavertail lugs and then the drum set war was really on.

I have not seen another Rogers Canadian catalog. Let me know if you have one or have seen one.

 

Dangerous Illusions: Who Stole Ringo’s Drums?

Q: What do Ringo’s drums – the iconic Ludwig Downbeat made famous on the Ed Sullivan Show, a set of Zildjians – straight from the depths of the family fault, murder, mystery, sex and betrayal have in common?

A: Dangerous Illusions, the new literary crime novel by Joseph J. Gabriele.

Percussionist and novelist Joseph J. Gabriele paints an incredibly rich and vibrant picture in his 268-page murder mystery thriller. While hosting a lavish party at his Park Avenue apartment, Eliot Sexton, a Manhattan writer and percussionist, finds his friend and former U.S. Diplomat murdered and “THE” iconic drum set, worshiped by millions, stolen from his office – and his 70 party guests see nothing.

Mr. Gabriele leads the reader on an unforgettable journey through Manhattan in search of the killer, the thief, the drums, and answers to questions that have unpredictable and volatile consequences. New York is never what it appears to be.

The seemingly effortless blend of drum and percussion details with modern writing is superb, to say the least, and aficionados from the Not So Modern Drummer community will truly appreciate the style in which Mr. Gabriele presents classic instruments, drum shops, and legendary drummers – from Baby Dodds, Chick Webb and Gene Krupa to Joe Morello and Ringo Starr. As a drummer and reader you are instantly transported to the time and place, and the memories that made drumming history – and the many reasons each of us are drumming today. We were equally impressed with the subtle weaving of rhythmic patterns in the writing – and it had us tapping them out as we followed along, slowly becoming one with the characters.

Mr. Gabriele has presented a can’t-put-down thriller, and is well worth the read. The drum addict within us all will appreciate the attention to detail – thanks to Mr. Gabriele’s seven years of researching and writing – conveying knowledge from drum collectors, historians and experts from around the world – including the Ludwig family themselves.

 

“Not since Dashiell Hammett’s Maltese Falcon has an object of desire caused so much trouble.” – Craigie Zildjian

 

Dangerous Illusions will be released in hardcover on February 9, 2014 – the 50th anniversary of Ringo and the rest of the Fab Four making their debut in America on the Ed Sullivan Show. It is currently available as an e-book at all major online retailers. For more information, visit: www.dangerousillusions.com.

 

Too Young To Die

Maker: UnknownCirca: 1855-1861 Dimensions: 9”(h) x 13”(dia.)

Drums have been moving creatures into dance and trance since the first rhythms were beat out of an audible object. The rhythms were a natural extension of ourselves; pulsing from our very core and starting with our own heart beats. With the modern inspiration that came at times from catalysts such as the “Ringo effect” or the impact of the likes of Gene Krupa, youngsters have always thought that drums were the coolest! Like most young boys, the generations of the early and mid 1800s, were visibly excited by the sight and sound of martial music propelled by the drums of the drum corps.

Nothing could instill a child with more pride and inspiration than being an accomplished drummer, and nothing short of a grand adventure could propel them to enlist faster.

From the very beginning, the American military has had a long history of recruiting young boys in time of hostilities. In the years following the American Revolution, military and governmental officials tried earnestly to rid the Army of the many under-aged boys that previously helped fill the ranks of the fledgling armed forces that eventually won the war. Over the next several decades the regulations on minimum requirements ebbed and flowed with the changing circumstances of building the new Republic. Regulations for the minimum age and height were always of a lower standard for musicians. Local and state militia units often ignored these regulations for musicians as most were just glad to have them along. Many under aged lads simply accompanied their fathers into the ranks or were orphaned and simply needed a place in the community.

By the time of the Civil War, the minimum age for an enlisted man was eighteen years, with a height requirement of at least five feet, four and a half inches. However, a musician could be enlisted as young as twelve years with no minimum height requirement. As would be expected, many underage boys simply lied about their age in order to enlist, skewing the records forever. Of the records of those who did not lie about their age, we know that there were at least three hundred boys 13 years old and under enlisted in the Union army during the Civil War, and at least 25 who were ten years old or younger.

Two of the younger enlisted drummers were eight year old Avery Brown of Company C, 31st Ohio who, two decades later, billed himself as “The Drummer Boy of the Cumberland”. Also there was 9 year old Albert C. White who accompanied his father, Lt. Cornelius C. White, into the ranks of Company D, 64th Ohio. Disease, hardships, and the casualty of battle would shorten the tenure of many of these small adventurers as they would not last 3 month, but the lot of them stayed the course and even reenlisted for the duration of the War.

Despite the sometimes romanticized idea of all these young drummer boys in the Army, most were never allowed even close to a recruiting officer. They were encouraged to find a “gig” on the home front. These young wizards of the drum were highly sought after…..and the younger the better. P.T. Barnum’s famed New York City museum regularly employed exceptionally talented young drummers during the War. Two of the most notable were Major Willie Bagley and Master Allie Turner, both four years old.

This drum was made shortly before the War started in 1861, during a time of extreme patriotism, and is a miniature version of a full sized military drum. With the War now a reality, production of this type of luxury item would no longer be practical, as most manufacturing would have been concentrated on the war effort. Commonly referred to as a child’s drum, rather than a toy, it sports many of the same features found on a regular sized military drum. The shell is a varnished, single ply of thin ash veneer with red sponged maple counter hoops. A single row of vertical brass tacks reinforce the outer edge of the scarf joint. The central figure of the drum is a decal of an eagle standing on a patriotic shield that was a very popular design from 1855to 1865. However, this type of design was also used decades before and was still in use on drums through the end of the century.

The original cat-gut snares remain and are simply wrapped around a piece of wood that acts as a snare butt and pinched between the hoop and shell opposite to create the tension. The ruptured heads are made of a parchment material very similar to heavy paper and glued to the flesh hoops. Only one leather ear is left present on the drum as the others have long since deteriorated from time and use. The hemp rope is tattered, but also original.

Written on the bottom head in pencil is the name: Harry C. Hartfence. Harry, quite possibly the original owner, may have received this drum as a gift. With the condition of the drum and the fact of the manner in which it was made, especially the condition of the heads and no repairs evident, the probability of a young Harry being the original owner makes good sense. No records indicate he was in the army during the Civil War.

Included with the drum is a very rare, child sized cloth drum sling, which is in very good condition. It is attached to the drum with an equally rare wrought iron sling attachment ring, which is run through one of the rope holes. It seems there was no standard with which to attach the sling to the drum….each drummer or manufacturer had his own way of accomplishing this task. A nice pair of black, under-sized drum sticks round out this grouping.

The drum remains original and untouched; sometimes referred to as “relic or farm-fresh” condition. Only a light cleaning was needed. The shell has a crack that runs about half way around the center of the drum and may be the victim of the inexpensive manner in which it was constructed as well as the lack of reinforcement at the scarf joint area. After all, it was only a child’s drum but, nonetheless, a silent testament to the patriotic zeal and seemingly ever present desire of youngsters to make the music. This small instrument was certainly made for those who had to stay behind…..…those too young to die.

From Lancaster County, PA... thoughts from the Shop.

-Brian Hill

 

Hayman Vibrasonic Drums

1968 saw the introduction of a new English drum manufacturer, Hayman. The man behind these drums was Ivor Arbiter, who according to Bob Henrit was the first to import Ludwig and Gretsch drums into the UK during ‘the Beat Boom’. Arbiter had identified a gap in the market for a set of loud drums that would get heard over the ever increasing volume of amplified music.

If you’re looking for a classic vintage English kit with a unique sound, then look no further than Hayman. There’s been a resurgence of interest in these British beauties in the last couple of years here in the UK. In their short production time, they attracted a number of high profile endorsers; even today, many name players have a Hayman kit in their collection for studio work due to their unique sound.

Originally named ‘George Hayman’, but quickly shortened to ‘Hayman’, these drums looked and sounded different to other English kits. With their turret style lugs, at a glance it would be easy to mistake these for Camco drums. But use your ears and you’ll experience a loud, resonant set of drums that live up to the name on their badges – ‘vibrasonic’.

Handcrafted in the UK, Hayman were marketed as ‘The greatest drum happening since the plastic head’ and claimed to be ‘more resonant than any drum on the market’.

Their quality control was so thorough all drums were sold with a lifetime guarantee. So let’s have a look at these drums in more detail….

Aside from lugs, their other most distinguishable feature was their shell interiors, with a ‘vibrasonic’ coating - Seven coats of special metallic poly-eurathene spray, bonded to the internals of the shell, claimed to be superior to Ludwig’s ‘resocote’. The shells were made of cross laminated Swedish Ply (which according to the catalogue was more expensive than regular ply and stronger due to the cross lamination) and featured 8 ply internal support rims (also laminated individually for extra strength). Initially produced in only 3 brushed metallic finishes (gold, silver and midnight blue -brass badges ’69-73), other colors were introduced later (regal red, matt black, natural pine and iceberg- smaller, silver badges ’73-75). The earlier finishes were triple laminate layers of Melinex and metal foil, which were flame resistant. They were unique to Hayman and I haven’t seen them anywhere else (although I read somewhere these coatings were used on refrigerators).

The kits were marketed in the following configurations; ‘The Pacemaker’ 20, 13, 16 & snare; ‘The Big Sound’ 22, 13, 16 & snare; ‘The Showman’ 22,12,13,16 & snare; ‘The Recording’ 18, 12, 14 & snare. Bass drums were available up to a 26”, but most kits still in circulation today are the ‘Big Sound’ and ‘Showman’.

The hardware on these drums were innovative for an English kit in the 60’s; fold-out ‘Holdfast’ bass drum spurs, triple flange hoops, ‘baseball bat’ dampers and adjustable swivel tom mounts. The tom post mounted onto a flat, curved rail on the bass drum, which one could slide to obtain optimum positioning; claimed to be ‘the most advanced to come from any drum factory’ boasting every angle and height adjustment with ‘functional thumb screws that stay firm’. Anyone who’s used them would probably disagree, as they are very difficult to negotiate and famously crush your fingers. The bass drum rods were among the first shaped to actually enable the drummer to tune his bass drum with ease.

The snare drums were the first non-American snare drum to feature 10 lugs and a simple throw off. With the vibrasonic lining and fitted with 22 strand wires, they were advertised as having the sound of a metal drum.

Speedomatic stands accompanied these sets, once again with groundbreaking features, the most rugged on the market at the time. The snare stand was the first in Britain to offer a basket holding mechanism, cymbal stands were offered as either tripod or flat base. The hi hat stand had double tension springs and the bass drum pedal was fibre belted.

Unfortunately, The Hayman brand was finished by 1975, although it was briefly re-launched in the 80’s with the shells made in Taiwan. Don’t mistake these drums for the originals.

Key players - Wilgar Campbell (Rory Gallagher); Randy Jones (Maynard Ferguson band); Paul Hammond (Atomic Rooster); Aynsley Dunbar ; Brian Bennett (The Shadows); Rob Townsend (Family); Ronnie Verrall; Bob Henrit (Argent, Kinks), Bill Bruford (Yes), Simon Kirke (Free), Mitch Mitchell (Jimi Hendrix Experience), Mitch Mitchell (Jimi Hendrix Experience) and many others over the years.

NB: Bob Henrit is currently writing the Arbiter book and we look forward to this being published soon. He’s just released his autobiography ‘Banging On’ which is a worthy read.

 

L&L 1920s Brass Oval Badge

Hi George, I was wondering if you might know where I could find a L & L 1920's brass oval badge in nice shape. I've made a few contacts to date and have someone checking for me at the Connecticut and Chicago drum shows, but was hoping through your own contacts, you might be able to point me in a specific direction. Thanks very much for any assistance you can offer and also wanted you to know, NSMD is looking great these days.. nice job!

Best regards, Joe Czulinski

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Hey Joe, I don't have any in stock, but I'll post your request. Anyone?

 

Nice 1952 Leedy & Ludwig Kit

From Denzil Woody...

This Leedy and Ludwig kit was purchased in 1952 when I was a sophomore in college. I played them for three years and they have been stored in hard cases since that time.

 

1929-1935 Ludwig Super Sensitive

Antone Lourenco of Aantone's Music sent me this one to appraise...

What is this drum worth?

Hey Antone, That is the first model of the Ludwig Super Sensitive snare made between 1929 and 1935. Not to be confused with the first model with a parallel strainer, the Super Ludwig that debuted in 1925. The Super Sensitive has the extra snares under the top head.  I'd estimate the value at $2000 if it's in great cosmetic and working condition which it looks like it is. Do you mind if I post this on the Not So Modern Drummer site? Beautiful finish and inlay. Is it for sale?

Well known snare collector Mike Curotto said $1,500 to $2,000.

-George Lawrence